On The Ty Brady Way podcast, host Ty Brady asks Matt Stevens a question he hears all the time: what actually makes someone succeed as a franchise owner. Stevens has spent nearly 40 years in franchising, and his answer isn’t one trait. It’s a five part framework he calls AABS plus E, a habit of turning assumptions into questions instead of conclusions, and a financial planning method built around three different outcomes.
He also tells the story of a candidate he calls Rick, who lost his first choice franchise to someone who moved faster, built a second business instead, and years later got the chance to bring the first one into the fold too. Both are still running strong today, and Rick has been named Franchisee of the Year in each system.
Key Takeaways from This Episode
- Matt Stevens started as a franchisee in 1988 in what became CertaPro Painters, cold calling doors every weekend in New Hampshire and winning Rookie of the Year for the Northern New England division.
- His AABS plus E framework, Attitude, Ambition, Behavior, Skill, plus Engagement, is what he says separates top performing franchise owners from everyone else.
- The biggest mistake he sees candidates make is turning assumptions into conclusions instead of turning them into questions for someone who can give an honest answer.
- He builds three financial plans for every candidate, a blue sky version, an average version, and a worst case version, then measures weekly activity and monthly results against all three.
- A candidate he calls Rick lost his first choice franchise to someone who moved faster, bought a second one instead, and years later got the chance to acquire the first one too. He went on to win Franchisee of the Year in both systems.
- His lowest ever franchise placement invested just $15,000 in cash and a $50,000 loan to get started, proof that the entry point can be well below what most people assume.
- Two non-negotiable habits drive his own business: time blocked daily marketing activity and staying in ongoing contact with candidates he has already placed.
- Stevens evaluates every candidate against roughly 30 ownership criteria before looking for a match, and his guidance is free to the candidate no matter how much they end up investing.
From Door to Door Painter to The Franchise Guy
Matt Stevens was walking through the halls of an East Coast university when he saw an advertisement for running your own business. It turned out to be the precursor to CertaPro Painters. He jumped in during 1988, joining about 67 other franchisees across Canada and New England who were managing crews, marketing, selling, and handling payroll on their own. He ran that business for three years before moving over to work directly with the franchisor, a shift that changed his trajectory from baseball toward business for good.
The early years demanded pure tenacity. In his market in southwestern New Hampshire, there was no direct mail, only door knocking. Stevens would manage his crews and run estimates all week, then spend weekends cold calling houses until he had ten estimates scheduled, walking through late winter New Hampshire weather in a short sleeve shirt to stay warm from the walking itself. He kept tick marks, used a 40 second spiel, and left a door hanger when nobody answered. He does not remember a single weekend where he left without hitting his number. That consistency earned him Rookie of the Year for the Northern New England division, a result he still looks back on with pride.
“Fear and pride are incredible motivators.”
Matt Stevens, The Ty Brady WayWhat The Franchise Guy Actually Does
Today Stevens works as an independent franchise consultant, paid by the franchisor rather than the candidate. Without guidance, most people are left scrolling through more than 4,000 franchise brands online with no real direction. Stevens compared the process to a matchmaking service built specifically for franchises, covering both new territories and resales: understand what a candidate is looking for and why, then either find the opportunity that fits, or tell them honestly that it does not exist yet. A franchise consultant’s role is to measure a candidate against roughly 30 different ownership criteria, often steering them toward a business model they had never considered but that fits their life far better than the one they walked in asking about.
The AABS Plus E Framework: What Separates Top Franchise Owners
Asked what separates the top performers among the nearly 1,000 franchisees he has placed, Stevens pointed to five qualities he calls exercising your ABs: Attitude, Ambition, Behavior, and Skill, plus a fifth quality he adds as an asterisk, Engagement. Candidates can show up with excellent attitude, ambition, behavior, and skill and still struggle if they do not engage, meaning they never lean on the franchisor, the regional franchisees, or the people already producing the results they want.
Stevens knows the cost of skipping that step firsthand. In 1988, pride kept him from engaging with people who had already solved the problems he was facing, and he spent hundreds of hours on projects he did not need to handle alone when a phone call could have saved him the trouble. Franchising exists, in his view, because nobody has to do it alone. Candidates are leveraging hundreds of years of collective knowledge and experience, and they already paid for that access through the franchise fee. Working with a franchise consultant is one way candidates put that engagement into practice from day one.
Rick’s Story: A Setback That Didn’t End the Search
The story Stevens returns to when asked for a career highlight starts about twelve to fifteen years ago. An acquaintance, referred to in the episode as Rick, had been downsized from an executive role paying around $200,000 a year. Stevens found him a strong opportunity, called Opportunity A in the story, but another candidate moved faster and signed first. Rather than start from zero, Stevens and Rick went back to work, and Rick purchased a second franchise, Opportunity B, and began climbing its learning curve.
While Rick was still deep in that learning curve, the person who had bought Opportunity A ran into a serious health issue and had to sell, after investing roughly $100,000 into the business. Stevens brought the opportunity back to Rick with a direct heads up that the road ahead would take real effort.
“Constant action, regardless of speed, will get you exactly where you want to go.”
Matt Stevens, The Ty Brady WayRick thought it over for three weeks, then bought it. He now owns both Opportunity A and Opportunity B, and he has been named Franchisee of the Year in each of the two national systems, separate honors from two different brands. Stevens describes the outcome as two fantastic businesses, with at least one intended as a legacy for one of Rick’s adult children to potentially take over. Years later, someone offered to buy Opportunity A from him, and Rick turned the offer down because he enjoyed running it too much. Fifteen plus years after the story began, both businesses are still going. Candidates weighing how to become a franchise owner rarely hear a story that shows how much the picture can change after the first setback, and how much staying engaged in the search matters.
Turn Your Assumptions Into Questions
Stevens said the most common and costly mistake he sees is candidates turning assumptions into conclusions. People are hit with so much information from every direction that they stop verifying what they believe and simply accept it, and that habit can turn a great opportunity into one that looks bad, or a weak opportunity into one that looks deceptively appealing. His fix is simple: take the assumption, turn it into a direct question, and bring that question to someone competent enough to give an honest answer.
He applies the same principle to cost. A candidate might assume a franchise runs around $70,000 because that is the franchise fee, when the real total investment for that concept can average closer to $312,000 once buildout, equipment, and working capital are included. On the other end, his lowest ever placement invested just $15,000 in cash plus a $50,000 loan and built the business for seven years. Understanding what a franchise actually costs before assuming a number, and knowing how to evaluate the opportunity itself, are the two questions Stevens says candidates skip most often.
Planning for Blue Sky, Average, and Worst Case Outcomes
Stevens builds three financial plans for every candidate: a blue sky version if everything works out fantastically, an average version he considers the more likely outcome, and a worst case version in case things go poorly. He then checks those plans early and often, measuring weekly activity and monthly results against all three, rather than writing a plan once and revisiting it two years later when a candidate could already be far down the wrong path.
Two habits keep his own business consistent. The first is daily marketing activity, time blocked rather than tied to a specific outcome, because he trusts that steady activity compounds over time even on days that produce nothing. The second is staying in ongoing contact with candidates he has already placed. He mentioned a recent example: a franchisee who had initially been disappointed by his franchisor’s support recently landed a substantial new contract through a relationship the franchisor had arranged, and told Stevens they were having a lot of fun out there now.
Why Personal Relationships Still Win
Stevens sees personal relationships becoming more valuable, not less, in an era of AI, data, and constant advertising. He compared it to the calling card era: when someone stopped at a house and found nobody home, they left a small piece of paper with their name, because the relationship was the point. People want the truth, not a highlight reel, and that is exactly why he tells candidates to keep turning assumptions into questions for real people rather than settling for whatever appears in a feed.
He judges his own days by the seeds he plants rather than the harvest he collects, since the harvest can be unfairly generous one month and unreasonably low the next, even when the underlying activity stayed consistent. His closing thought on franchise ownership: most people are taught to go get a job, but a franchise lets someone be one boss for life, starting at any age, buying down the learning curve by years instead of spending a decade or more learning the same lessons alone. Reach out to Matt Stevens for a short, no cost conversation about which opportunity fits your goals.
Matt Stevens Independent Franchise Consultant, The Franchise Guy
Nearly 40 Years in Franchising | 4 Businesses Owned | Nearly 1,000 Franchisees Placed | heisthefranchiseguy.com
Matt Stevens has spent nearly 40 years in franchising. He’s helped more than 3,000 people explore franchise ownership and placed nearly 1,000 of them as franchisees across more than 40 states. He has owned four businesses and served as Vice President and Partner in a $2 billion international franchise holding company. He works as an independent franchise consultant based in Dublin, Ohio, and his consulting is free to the candidate. Learn more about Matt
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Frequently Asked Questions
About twelve to fifteen years ago, an acquaintance of Matt Stevens, referred to as Rick, had been downsized from an executive role paying roughly $200,000 a year. Stevens found him a strong opportunity, called Opportunity A in the story, but another candidate moved faster and signed first. Stevens and Rick started the search again, and Rick purchased a second franchise, Opportunity B, and began working through its learning curve.
While Rick was still climbing the learning curve on Opportunity B, the person who had bought Opportunity A ran into a serious health issue and had to sell after investing roughly $100,000 into the business. Stevens brought the opportunity back to Rick and told him it had become available again. Rick thought it over for three weeks, then bought it, becoming the owner of both Opportunity A and Opportunity B.
After acquiring both franchises, Rick built each into a genuinely strong business and earned Franchisee of the Year honors in both national systems, separate recognitions from two different brands. Stevens describes the outcome as two fantastic businesses, with at least one intended as a legacy for one of Rick’s adult children. More than fifteen years after the story began, Rick is still running both franchises successfully.
Rick’s story shows that losing a first choice opportunity does not have to be the end of the path. Stevens notes that years later, someone offered to buy Opportunity A from Rick, and Rick turned the offer down because he enjoyed running the business too much. The lesson Stevens draws is that constant action and staying engaged in the search, even after an early setback, can put a candidate in position to act when circumstances change later.
Stevens describes the traits that separate top performing franchisees as exercising their ABs, Attitude, Ambition, Behavior, and Skill, then adds a fifth quality as an asterisk, Engagement. In his view, these five qualities together determine whether a franchise owner thrives inside a proven system or struggles unnecessarily.
Stevens has seen candidates come into a franchise with excellent attitude, ambition, behavior, and skill and still struggle because they do not engage, meaning they do not stay connected to the franchisor, to regional franchisees, or to the people already achieving the results they want. He points to his own experience in 1988, when pride kept him from engaging and he spent hundreds of hours on projects he did not need to handle alone, when a phone call to someone with more experience could have saved the trouble.
Stevens says the most common and costly mistake is turning assumptions into conclusions. Candidates are hit with so much information from every direction that they stop verifying what they believe and simply accept it as true, and that habit can turn a great opportunity into one that looks bad, or a weak opportunity into one that looks deceptively appealing.
Instead of accepting an assumption at face value, Stevens tells candidates to convert it into a direct question and take that question to someone competent enough to give an honest answer. He applies the same principle to cost. A candidate might assume a franchise costs around $70,000 based on the franchise fee alone, when the full investment for that concept can actually average closer to $312,000, a gap that only becomes clear once the assumption becomes a question someone actually answers.
For every candidate, Stevens builds three financial plans, a blue sky version if everything works out fantastically, an average version he considers the more likely outcome, and a worst case version in case things go poorly. He then measures weekly activity and monthly results against all three plans on an ongoing basis, rather than building a plan once and revisiting it two years later, so a candidate can catch a wrong turn early and adjust.
Stevens works as an independent franchise consultant, matching candidates with franchise opportunities at no cost to the candidate. He is compensated by the franchisor only when a placement is made. He evaluates each candidate against roughly 30 ownership criteria and describes the process as matchmaking, closer to a matching service for franchises, covering both new territories and resales, than a directory of options to browse alone.
Stevens names two habits he never skips. The first is daily marketing activity, time blocked rather than tied to a specific outcome, because he trusts that consistent activity compounds over time even on days that produce zero appointments. The second is staying in ongoing contact with candidates he has already placed, checking in on what is working and what is not. One recent example involved a franchisee who landed a substantial new contract through a relationship his franchisor had set up.
Stevens says the number varies widely, and he warns candidates against assuming the franchise fee is the full investment. His lowest ever placement invested just $15,000 in cash plus a $50,000 loan to get started. Meanwhile, a candidate who assumes a $70,000 franchise fee covers everything might actually be looking at a total investment closer to $312,000 once buildout, equipment, and working capital are included. Most candidates he works with invest somewhere between the high five figures and low seven figures overall.
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